Questions for Liza Loop
Tell me the stories of how you became involved in the PCC.
- What was your involvement? How did it change over time?
How did others come to the PCC? (New Left vs New Comunitarians)
From my research so far, I have the impression that PCC was about bringing computers to the people, hands on and on their own terms. Which people?
- Who tended to participate in PCC activities?
- Were gender or race explicitly discussed as categories of concern? If so, how? If not, do you have any reflections on why?
How did the feminist movements of the 60s and 70s impact you at the time?
What was access to publishing like for the women of the PCC?
What was decision making structure around the PCC (and CCC) like?
How did they tend to get involved? What kinds of folks were involved in the PCC?
From your papers, it seems that you care a lot about women and education, math, science, and computers is something you seem to a lot about in your papers. Can you tell me how and why this became important to you?
- What was the role of Math/Science Network?
- Did these groups ever interact with PCC or computing organizations?
- Did you feel gender was a category of interest in the operation of PCC during those times?
Jan 1975 Girls outnumber boys photo spread
Who else might I speak with?
More PCC Readin'
May 1974
(p19 - letters)
"Thanks a lot for the addresses of teh BASIC books, David Ahl and Jean Danver. Is Jean Danver a Mrs. Danver or Miss Danver? I put MS. as a compromise, I hope she's liberated." - Mike (Just Peachy) Pitt
the tone of the post is ver jokey, self-deprecating, energetic. feminists reach has extended to this fellow. why does he ask about jean's status anyways? Ms. then not really legitimized as a satisfactory term?
Greg Bateson interview packet
Nancy Hertert Dragon Shirts p26
question - What was access to publishing like for the women of the PCC? How did they tend to get involved? What kinds of folks were involved in the PCC? What was decision making around the PCC (and CCC) like? Women and education, math, science, and computers is something you seem to have cared about in your papers. Can you tell me the stories of how and why this became important to you?
when it rains, it pours...
The DEC dragon birth myth story
"About this time, in a moment of rare lucidity, he married his editor, Mary Jo, relieving her of the tedium of a perfectly good career in an eminently respectable publishing house." (2)
Domefilm - shows Joe, 22, and Robin, 19, building geodesic dome. is robin a woman?
Jan 1975
Introducing the Altair
"couldn't find a picture of the INtel 8080 in time for this issue, but here is a picture of the intel 8008, litle sister to the 8080." cute chip pictured
what makes chips be sisters?
gender is never at all mentioned explicitly in PCC except by default "him" "he" "himself" words
Ted Nelson's Computer Lib
Is this a takeoff of women's lib?"
"If you are interested in democracy and its future, you'd better understand computers. And if you are concerned about power and the way it is being used, and aren't we all right now, the same thing goes." "Summary: Man has created the myth of 'the computer' in his own image, or one of them: cold, immaculate, sterile, "scientific," oppressive.
Some ppl flee this image. Others, drawn toward it have joined the cold-sterile-oppressive cult, and propogate it like a faith. Many are still about this mischief, making people do things rigidly and saying it is the computer's fault.
Stil others see computers for what the really are: versatile gizmos which may be turned to any purpose, in any style. And so a wealth of new styles and human purposes are being proposed and tried, each proponent prpounding his own dream in his own very personal way."
generic male, but first paragraph almost seems directly at least male stereotype.
them: cold, immaculate, sterile, 'scientific,' oppressiveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee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Liza Loop
on phone...take taperecorder on friday!
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also talk to Adele Goldberg
Ellen Nold? she may have passed away. distance education in alaska.
There were 6 of us in 75-76 who were on a panel on Women in Microcomputing
Milton Chan, at KQED now <--male
Bobby Goodson <--dead, founded CUE (Computer Using Educators, taken over by International Society for Technology in Education, still a CUE conference, newsletter Learning and Leading with Technology has a LIza Loop article in it)
Joanne Koltnow left PCC to become a photographer, talks to Liza Loop over email someimes
Liza tries to mentor as many people as she can. "Just like there's an old boys network, there's gotta be an old girls' network."
PCC vol2 no1
(p3)
Mary Jo and Dave enrollment contact for BASIC class at people's computer center, Dave is instructor with other PCC stuff and occasional guest appearances
individualized teaching material recommendations, no textbooks, but xeroxed class presos
referred to in "curious about pcc? thursday nite" segment as the "Dave Show"
"liberate some kids from school! we'll set up special courses for students from your school."
(p5)
"Buy your TV set something nice, like a computer
or
Buy a Brain for your Boob Tube" <-- how did boob become a breast and a fool?
(p4)
The 2nd Sensational Peninsula School Learning Faire
The PCC's kid directed games computer's play with Bob Albrecht"
with his little _/\/\_ + - _/\/\_ logo dude
(p6)
Taxman demonizing game with code on next page (you can send for a tape but don't tell taxman!)
Max and Minnie (Taxmax and taxmin)
(p10)
victorian woodcut looking picture of a woman at a desk with an hourglass and elevated writing surface scribing
Notes on a CAI seminar by Phillis Cole and Adele Goldberg
Joanne Koltnow
Contact: Joanne Koltnow, Coordinator, Math/Science Resource Center, Mills College, Oakland, Ca. 94613; (415) 635-5074.
331.4 E96s.
EXPANDING YOUR HORIZONS IN SCIENCE AND MATHEMATICS : CONFERENCES FOR YOUNG
WOMEN INTERESTED IN NEW CAREER OPTIONS : A HANDBOOK FOR PLANNERS / BY
JOANNE KOLTNOW ; PROJECT DIRECTOR: LENORE BLUM ; [EDITOR: SUSAN STUERMER
MONBERG ; PHOTOGRAPHERS: EILEEN CHRISTELOW ... [ET AL.].
[Washington] : Women's Educational Equity Act Program, U.S. Dept. of Health,
Education, and Welfare, 1980. from Titles in A.B.L.E. Archives: Curriculum Lab
Thanked in a report of 10 years of education research done by apple
Donor to Women's Foundation California 2001, 2002
From Hackers, p260:
"Warren turned out to have considerable talents as a promoter. He began a tabloid newspaper specifically to pump up excitement about the Faire, and, incidentally, to spread his brand of technogossip. It was called Silicon Gulch Gazette, and there were stories about what the Faire would be like and little Profiles of some of the speakers, and also a profile of "chaircreature" Jim Warren. The paper boasted of the Faire's "co-sponsorship" arrangements with nonprofit groups like the Homebrew Computer Club, SCCS, PCC and its offshoot, Community Computer Center (CCC), and others. (Joanne Koltnow, who helped out the Faire from her job at CCC, later said that "everyone was shocked" when they later discovered that the Faire was a for-profit organization.) With a staff of two secretaries, Warren and his partners worked almost around the clock as the Faire progressed."
Feminism and the Technological Fix - Carol Stabile
Feminists react to technology with either technophobia or technomania
In 1970s, majority of feminists "dismissed technology as inherently patriarchal and malignant." "Shulamith Firestone was alone in the early seventies when she argued for the potentially liberatory aspects of technology." "technological determinism of the sesventies began to recede somewhat during the eighties"
p510 - Mary Daly founding ecofeminist
nature- feminine, matriarchal past
tehcnology - phallic, brutal present
binarism
women should reject tech --> solve contemp social probs
p512 - Donna Haraway endless metaphors that don't really give an effective means of grasping the structural aspects of oppression
cyborg is both "unnatural cyborg women making chips in Asia and spiral dancing Santa Rita jail" --> Fred Moore upset by these asian chip making women
Ecofeminism - Mies and Shiva, Feminisms reader
realization that patriarchal science had not flourished until witch hunts killed off the women with wisdom and connections to nature
spirituality dominated by patriarchal warrior tradition religions - islam, christianity, judaism
recreation of a goddess-based religion; spirituality defined as Goddess, female principle
Hackers - Levy
p216
- Fred Moore sad that "how blindly people accepted technology."
- cheap female labor in Malaysia and other Asian countries who physically assembled those magical chips (embodied labor a surprise)
- worked in unsafe factories for low wages and were unable to return to their villages, since they never had a chance to learn the traditional modes of cooking or raising a family.
p217
- jude milton turned off by how homebrewers were into tech for sake of tech, for sake of control; sheer technology; noted lack of female hardware hackers
- bob albrecht rarely attended, could understand every fourth word
- ted nelson called Homebrew people "chip-monks, people obsessed with chips. It was like going to a meeting of people who love hammers."
how have these internet/hacker histories been written? might looking at it through lens of pcc have a historiographic significance as well as one of interest with regard to gender politics?
bitch goddesses?
p210 - Levy, Hackers
describing practice of hand building a circuit board
"That method was a tortuous courting of the bitch goddess Disaster, but Marsh was a compulsively careful worker."
PCC from Hackers
Fred Moore - idealist
at WEC farewell party, Stewart Brand to give away $20k
after hours of discussion and debate, Fred announces that this is a downer and proves that you don't need money to get done what you want to get done -- just other people. money divides and is generally evil. but refused putting it to a vote also, as voting "in his view was a way of dividing people against each other." "We feel the union of people here is more important than money -- a greater resource."
p198
FM had idea to teach hardware class at PCC, though didn't know much cabout hardware. collab learning. B Albrecht thought it was bad idea. FM really involved in teaching classes at the center (13 p/week in computer games) thought a lot about how computers could keep alternative people together in big databases.
PCC is so deeply about education
PCC & Machines of Loving Grace
Reading Hackers by Steven Levy
p177 - poem
I like to think (right now, please!) / of a cybernetic forest / filled with pines and electronics / where deer stroll peacefully / past computers / as if they were flowers / with spinning blossoms.
I like to think (it has to be!) / of a cybernetic ecology / where we are free of our labors / and joined back to nature / returned to our mammal / brothers and sisters, / and all watched over / by machines of loving grace."
superficially reminds me of ecofeminism.
p173 - "Sometimes housewives would bring their kids in, try the computers themselves, and get hooked, programming so much that husbands worried that the loyal matriarchs were abandoning children and kitchen for teh joys of BASIC." <--this was in 1973 palo alto!
For a PCC newsletter that shows half of the club's users being girls (more actually) there hasn't yet been a single women mentioned in this history, save Jane - Lee and Efrem's friend - who found programming delightful programming but couldn't see how some would get so obsessed with it.
P170
"[ALBRECHT] was involved with the influential Midpeninsula Free University, an embodiment of the area's do-your-own-thing attitude which drew people like Baba Ram Dass, Timothy Leary and the former AI sage of MIT, Uncle John McCarthy. Albrecht was involved in starting the loosely run "computer education division" of the portola institute, the nonprofit foundation that spawned the Whole Earth Catalog."
also started Dymax with Woodside HIgh teacher to teach Basic (named in honor of Buckminster Fuller's trademarked word "dymaxion")
"There was plenty of counterculture at Dymax. The place was full of long-haired populist computer freaks, many of them of high school age" (171). This term "freaks" originated in the 1960s around the hippie movement, no? From Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test
p83
"Women are grossly unpredictable. How can a hacker tolerate such an imperfect being." (I can't even find her program counter. oh, that's spanish fly. -- lilly)
Box 3 - Liza Loop - People's Computer Company papers
January 1975
Volume 3 page 26 - professor Google on TOC, inside Professor Googol! by Sam Valenza, Jr.
p25
PCC Bookstore
Stewart Brand galore - Whole Earth Epilog (Penguin Books) [sic], Cybernetic Frontiers (Random House)
DeSchool Primer No. 10 (Zephyrs) "A handbook for traveling in time and place"
Steps to an Ecology of Mind by Gregory Bateson (Ballentine)
Math, Writing, & Games in the open classroom [Liza loop connection? Lot of education going on here. What was significance of education in the counterculture?]
various BASIC programming guides
A short course in "Computer Literacy" Eerything you need to know for cocktail parties. (Become an instant expert!)
Computers and Computation by Freeman
Computer Lib by T. H. Nelson
my sense of irony kicks in?
p16
A Fantasy of Future Forms part 3 by David Kaufman and graphics by Albert Bradley (authorship at bottom of page)
account of friday, late 1970s PCC meeting run by Duane the 11th grader. librarian also a guy.
old debate - local school proposing to set up and teach "own computer games classes using Center as its base. Hardod, one of the "old--timers" is arguing that the Center can make more money by running the classes itself. Jane, another "old--timer" wants to give it a try.
Duane fires his cap pistol three times and has Harold and Jane sum up their arguments. The motion is defeated, but by a narrower margin than last year." They want to make money? Who is Jane? how much older is the People's Computer Center of Menlo Park than the PCC newsletter? WAIT. THIS IS A FANTASY?
"now five fulltime teachers, two hardware people, loads of young people, and paraprofessionals"
definitely more men than women in drawing - women have very obvious breasts or waistline. one long haired one i'm also counting as girl, but not sure.
p15 What is PCC?
non-profit educational corporation, promoting recreational use of comps and acquainting ppl with computers in low-key, non-threatening way
upper-left corner, picture of 4 women, 2 in skirts, other two not visible. are they wearing a uniform? 5th girl visible in back. hunched over working on something.
22 boys, 24 girls + 8 girls in big group picture
5 women (3 very active, 2 off in background), 2 men
lots of school uniforms -0 some sort of institutional connection?
pcc newspaper now in 3rd year of publication
so liza loops seems to only have some of them (which ones did she choose to keep?)
p. ?
Pam Scaravie
digital conceptual art, visual environments
annnnnnd I get kicked out. :P
Ecofeminism
- opposed to dualisms and gender-based hierarchies of all kind
- focused on opposing gender hierarchies but realizes that forms of oppression are all connected
- support nature friendly sceince, diversity in nature and culture
- resistance and revision
- nontotalitarian, whole world
- opposed to unnecessary and dangerous technologies such bovine growth hormone, genetic engineering, as well as consumerism and inequitable wealth distribution
seems a lot less chill than the counterculture.
"ecofeminism was coined by French theorist Francoise d'Eaubonne in 1974. The first self-identified ecofeminist political gathering was in 1980 in Amherst, Mass" - reader's companion
